tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620698560611640068.post3791796879968956331..comments2024-03-21T06:36:04.196-05:00Comments on The Idol-Head of Diabolu, a Martian Manhunter blog: Justice League of America #242 (9/85)Diabolu Frankhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620698560611640068.post-82046623125884366042007-11-16T18:44:00.000-06:002007-11-16T18:44:00.000-06:00My feeling is that the blog itself is J'Onn J'Onzz...My feeling is that the blog itself is J'Onn J'Onzz's domain, for whom I am sometimes advocate, sometimes critic. My feeling is that the Comment section belongs to whomever bothers to visit J'Onn J'Onzz's domain, myself included, so the conversation can go where it may (within reason.) I think, especially in light of Manhunter being a sorta/kinda Outsider (JLAnalogue see:Phantom Stranger, Adam Strange) that the team is fair game.<BR/><BR/>Adama, part of the fun of having Ollie on any superteam is waiting for him to flame out. He's one of the few fan-favorite spoilers, but that is his role exactly. As much as I would have liked to have seen Ollie in the Detroit League, the only way it would have worked is for him to become the hipster doofus trying to roll with the kids against "The aquaMAN," wherein he'd have slipped into parody. The Outsiders always bugged me in part because, especially with someone like Black Lightning on board, they were far less social crusaders than, say, the Titans. That never made sense to me, and maybe Ollie can help serve that role (though doubtful under Dixon.)<BR/><BR/>I've always wanted to like Katana, but she's always struck as just so damned lame I can't summon interest, much less affection. Meanwhile, working with Ollie makes a Cassandra Cain/Connor Hawke coupling possible, and that would be such coolness my nose and toes might need to be amputated.Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620698560611640068.post-42737819787027245942007-11-16T11:10:00.000-06:002007-11-16T11:10:00.000-06:00So I've been reading this blog ever since I saw yo...So I've been reading this blog ever since I saw your posts over at Luke's bunker, and have finally decided to comment. <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>I'm going to have to side with Zee here as well. Steel had no clue what he was up against, and the more experienced leaguers did. "Hey, Steel, you may be partially made of metal and superstrong, but that dude has all the powers of the big 7, at least, back the hell off!"<BR/><BR/>As for Ollie in the Outsiders...We all know I love 'im, but Ollie works better solo or with a close family group. I agree with Luke here, he's a little too showy and bombastic to work well in an Outsiders "lay low" type team.Adamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00021957442819037568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620698560611640068.post-60183167378068100302007-11-15T22:51:00.000-06:002007-11-15T22:51:00.000-06:00Not in general, but in this specific case, I think...Not in general, but in this specific case, I think Steel was in the right. The team was essentially abandoned by their leader, making Steel the Cpl. Hicks to Zatanna's Lt. Gorman when the Aliens start dropping from the walls. Or maybe more like that buddy of Vasquez's who gets nailed by the spray of acid blood, seeing as Steel ended up in a hole regardless of his actions.<BR/><BR/>I've never liked Geo-Force, so it's a win for me that I can take my $3 and buy JLA: Classified instead. Cassandra Cain is a great character who, even when "turned evil," was believably redeemed by a few lines typed into Geoff Johns' Titans scripts. I really wish that girl well, and I expect Dixon will do right by her. Y'know, this is the second time Chuck's picked up a half-Asian top 5 world class martial artist character created by Kelley Puckett. Weirdness, but he should run with it.Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620698560611640068.post-66999463926763176082007-11-15T21:55:00.000-06:002007-11-15T21:55:00.000-06:00I was looking forward to the tension of a long-ter...<I>I was looking forward to the tension of a long-term partnership between Batman and Catwoman</I><BR/><BR/>I can see the appeal of that, even though its not necessarily something I would be interested in just given my tastes.<BR/><BR/>Ollie, ehhh, I keep waffling on him. He's a good character, excellent at rousing the rabble, but I find that he tends to hog a spotlight. Like everyone has to look at him when he is talking. Batgirl I know nothing about. I'm mostly groaning because of another Bat-person on the Outsiders, heh. <BR/><BR/>But if Geo-Force takes J'Onn's place, that's a win-lose for me. I like Geo-Force, and think he should be an Outsider, but I was excited about how Bedard had set up the notion of MM working outside the lines. And he seems to have calmed down a bit from his miniseries!<BR/><BR/>ANYWAY. You'd side with Steel, hmm? Being more proactive and seeking out a known threat rather than hanging back? Interesting. With his lack of experience, it doesn't surprise me that J'Onn would have Steel not engage a powerful enemy like Amazo, but sometimes there is an imminent danger. Hmm.Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352646370918575626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620698560611640068.post-18046158740626082872007-11-15T18:30:00.000-06:002007-11-15T18:30:00.000-06:00I'd actually side with Steel in this instance.Paul...I'd actually side with Steel in this instance.<BR/><BR/>Paul Levitz was on "Legion," so the theory is sound. Does that make Conway "Michael Cimino" and Wolfman "Coppola?"<BR/><BR/>As I think I noted before, I was looking forward to the tension of a long-term partnership between Batman and Catwoman, but it was not to be. I've got a problem with Ollie, but he was in JLElite, which had pretty much the exact same m.o. No problem with Batgirl at all, as she fits in not only this type of team, but their specific circumstances. Cassandra Cain deserves another shot.Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620698560611640068.post-50063570053558792322007-11-15T06:16:00.001-06:002007-11-15T06:16:00.001-06:00Err. I mean, Zee was in the right. Steel was in ...Err. I mean, <B>Zee</B> was in the right. Steel was in the wrong. Doh!Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352646370918575626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620698560611640068.post-33217774086678216672007-11-15T06:16:00.000-06:002007-11-15T06:16:00.000-06:00So who was in the right, Steel or Zee? I'd have to...<I> So who was in the right, Steel or Zee? </I><BR/><BR/>I'd have to say Steel; J'Onn may be new to the position but not new to the game, and he's had literally hundreds more adventures under his belt than Steel, who should have followed Big Green's orders. But of course, this is Steel, all filled with rage and angst and, uhm, circuitry.<BR/><BR/>Who was writing <B>Legion of Superheroes</B> at this point? Because it seems like DC had some serious "Auteur Theory" going on with it's team books. Conway on <B>JLoA</B>, Barr on <B>Outsiders</B>, and Wolfman over on <B>NTT</B>. They really let them run with their respective balls (some runs, ahem, longer than others).<BR/><BR/>J'Onn had a good appearance in the first of Dixon's <B>BATO</B>, but it doesn't surprise me that he's leaving soon -- DC pretty much said that already, and if Dixon confirmed it then that's that. Still, I think he might be replaced with Geo-Force, so it's not all bad. No, the bad comes from Batgirl (ugh) and Green Arrow (UGH!) joining the team. At least Catwoman (who took an impressive two pages before irritating me) is shipping off as well.Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352646370918575626noreply@blogger.com