tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620698560611640068.post9091366617820977410..comments2024-03-18T10:41:09.242-05:00Comments on The Idol-Head of Diabolu, a Martian Manhunter blog: JLA: Incarnations #5 (Second Story, Nov. 2001)Diabolu Frankhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620698560611640068.post-13604957343194677632008-01-02T22:05:00.000-06:002008-01-02T22:05:00.000-06:00I figure we'll have something definitive coming so...I figure we'll have something definitive coming soon, and I pray its out of "Final Crisis" rather than "Countdown to Ruination." I have faith in Morrison, but if the Manhunter comes into play earlier on, things could get very ugly.Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620698560611640068.post-70920715734009444522008-01-02T07:58:00.000-06:002008-01-02T07:58:00.000-06:00Honestly, I wish someone would decide what they wa...Honestly, I wish someone would decide what they want to do with J'Onn and editorial will let them go with it. "The Others Among Us" painted the Angry Young Martian picture, but by the time he popped up again in <B>Five of a Kind</B> and <B>Outsiders</B>, he seemed pretty much like the J'Onn of old, only with a new costume. But that was not to be thanks to Bedard being replaced. And then we have the cameo of sorts in <B>JLoA</B> #12 along with "Aquaman," but nothing has come of that yet. <BR/><BR/>If you want him to be angry for a while, fine. If you want him to be behind the scenes, fine. But decide what the heck he is doing and do it already!Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352646370918575626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620698560611640068.post-40863224947576596982008-01-01T22:35:00.000-06:002008-01-01T22:35:00.000-06:00Honestly, I was reading the Ostrander series back ...Honestly, I was reading the Ostrander series back in my message board trolling days. I was one of a handful of reader/posters who routinely picked at every sore spot in a given script upon release, often in Ostrander's virtual presence. I'm sure my recollections are clouded by the piss and vinegar of that period. <BR/><BR/>That said, I was a devout Ostrander follower, specifically from his Grimjack days, prior to his work on Martian Manhunter. I'd previously enjoyed both his "Firestorm" and "Hawkworld" work as well, but wasnever exceptionally fond of either of the lead characters there. Once the worm began to turn on "Martian Manhunter" though, I found a kinship with fans of those franchises who'd been turned off by his revisionist interpretations. While J'Onn J'Onzz remained recognizable in a way Katar Hol and Ron Raymond had not, there were still subtle and overt liberties I still take great umbrage with.<BR/><BR/>That will all come with time, though, and it will be good to look on those stories again myself nearly a decade after the fact. I'm sure my reaction will be more reasonable, as I recognize the truth in what you're saying, Justin. The humanity in J'Onn J'Onzz remained under Ostrander, but I feel it was corrupted in ways you may have forgiven or forgotten. We'll see when I get there, sooner than later, hopefully.Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6620698560611640068.post-26626332118348253842008-01-01T20:58:00.000-06:002008-01-01T20:58:00.000-06:00hmmm...I'll agree that the Ostrander series could ...hmmm...I'll agree that the Ostrander series could be a bit dark, but I don't remember ever thinking that the Martian Manhunter character was grim in it. I don't know...I'll have to reread that series some day, but what I liked about it at the time was that J'onn was a character who, despite having lost everything, was sort of a linchpin of humanity in the DC Universe. Nobody lost so much, and yet nobody fought harder for a better world. Maybe my faulty memory is reading too much into something that wasn't there, but I thought Ostrander wrote him with a lot of heart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com